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A combination image shows an injection pen of Zepbound, Eli Lilly’s weight loss drug, and boxes of Wegovy, made by Novo Nordisk. 

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Good afternoon and happy Tuesday! To no surprise, expanding Medicare coverage of costly weight loss drugs could come at a steep cost for the federal government. 

Allowing Medicare to cover obesity medications would increase federal spending by about $35 billion from 2026 to 2034, according to an analysis released by the U.S. Congressional Budget Office last week. 

The federal costs for covering those drugs would grow from $1.6 billion in 2026 to $7.1 billion in 2034, the CBO said. 

The analysis is all hypothetical, and comes as drugmakers and advocacy groups push for the government to expand coverage of – and give more seniors access to – the highly popular treatments. Those include GLP-1s for obesity such as Novo Nordisk‘s Wegovy and Eli Lilly’s Zepbound, which both carry hefty price tags of roughly $1,000 per month before insurance and other rebates. 

Right now, Medicare doesn’t cover weight loss treatments unless they are approved and prescribed for another health condition. For example, Medicare covers Wegovy for reducing the risk of serious cardiovascular complications in those with heart disease and obesity, but doesn’t cover the drug for weight loss.  

The CBO expects that savings from improved health among patients – mainly by reducing the incidence of obesity-related conditions – 

will grow over time. Still, it says those savings could be relatively small, totaling less than $50 million in 2026 and about $1 billion in 2034.

“Even though net federal savings per user are projected to be larger over the longer term, they would still be less than the cost of the medications,” the CBO said in the report.

The cost of drugs could also fall over time, according to the CBO.  

Here’s why: It expects generic versions of popular weight loss injections to enter the market and reduce prices. The CBO also anticipates average net prices for obesity medications will fall in 2027 due to Medicare drug price negotiations with manufacturers.

Semaglutide, the active ingredient in Wegovy and Novo Nordisk’s diabetes drug Ozempic, could be among the 15 prescription drugs selected for the next round of price talks, which will begin in 2025 and go into effect in 2027. 

But how could Medicare coverage of those treatments impact access? 

If Medicare covers those medications, more than 12.5 million beneficiaries would newly qualify for weight loss drugs beginning in 2026, according to the CBO. The analysis said around 2% of those patients are expected to use the treatments in the first year. 

More than two-thirds of Medicare beneficiaries are

classified as either obese or overweight, according to their

body mass index, the CBO said. 

Notably, spending could look slightly different beyond 2034. 

The CBO said Medicare spending on weight loss drugs would probably be lower on a per-user basis due to lower costs tied to the drugs and increasing savings. But Medicare coverage of those treatments would still increase net federal costs from 2034 to 2044, the CBO noted. 

A Novo Nordisk spokesperson said in a statement Tuesday that the medical and societal costs of obesity are “significant,” with some estimates exceeding $1.7 trillion annually in the U.S. 

“We know treatment of obesity is linked to better medical outcomes, even if bureaucrats haven’t figured out how to account for these savings,” the spokesperson said, adding that the company hopes Medicare will start to offer coverage for weight loss drugs. 

Eli Lilly did not immediately respond to CNBC’s request for comment. 

Feel free to send any tips, suggestions, story ideas and data to Annika at annikakim.constantino@nbcuni.com.

Abbott Laboratories‘ consumer-friendly continuous glucose monitor for the last few weeks, and it’s a slick new tool for people who want an in-depth view into how their metabolism works. 

The device is called Lingo, and it’s a small sensor that pokes through the skin to measure real-time glucose levels. It’s very comfortable and easy to use. I’m wearing one on the back of my right arm, and I forget that it’s there most of the time.  

I’ve tried continuous glucose monitors before, but this was my first time testing one from Abbott. The company launched Lingo in September, just after its competitor Dexcom announced its own consumer-facing monitor called Stelo in late August. I reviewed Stelo for CNBC ahead of that launch. 

There are a lot of similarities between Lingo and Stelo, but Abbott’s app provides a much more comprehensive look into your glucose data over time than Dexcom’s does. If you’re interested in exploring your metabolism on a more granular level, Abbott’s system is probably the better product for you. 

Glucose is a sugar molecule that comes from food, and it’s our bodies’ primary source of energy. Everyone’s glucose levels vary, but people can develop serious health problems like metabolic disease, insulin resistance and heart disease if their levels are consistently high. Lingo aims to help educate users about their habits and teach them to manage their glucose in healthier ways, according to Abbott.

Continuous glucose monitors have historically been prescribed to patients with diabetes, but Lingo is intended for adults like me who do not have the disease. It’s available without a prescription, so you can pay out of pocket and buy one sensor online for $49, two for $89 or six for $249. 

Dexcom’s Stelo is also available over the counter, and an ongoing subscription for two sensors costs $89 a month. Stelo sensors last up to 15 days before they need to be replaced, and Lingo sensors last up to 14 days.

Once your Lingo sensors arrive, it’s pretty simple to start using them. I downloaded the Lingo app, entered some basic biological information and prepared to apply the sensor to my arm. The app walks you through each step, and it’s easy to follow. 

I started by putting together my applicator, the tool that inserts the sensor into the upper arm. There’s a needle in the applicator, but a flexible filament ultimately sits under the skin below the sensor itself.     

I’m not typically nervous about needles, but I had to hype myself up a bit to apply Lingo. You have to stamp the applicator firmly onto the back of your arm, so it was a little intimidating to do it myself. To apply Stelo with Dexcom’s applicator, I just had to click a button.  

I eventually built up the courage to stamp on my sensor, and it really wasn’t anything to be nervous about. I did feel some pain, but it subsided after about 10 minutes. When my 14 days were up and it was time to replace my sensor, I felt much more comfortable the second time around. 

Lingo is really easy to wear. I don’t notice the sensor while I’m sleeping, and I’m able to wear all my usual clothes with it on. I would just recommend a little caution while pulling on long sleeves so it doesn’t snag. To remove the sensor, you peel it off like a Band-Aid.

The sensor takes an hour to warm up, and then it begins transmitting your real-time glucose levels to the Lingo app. One of Abbott’s primary goals is to help users learn about glucose spikes, and this is where the app really shines. 

Glucose spikes occur when the amount of sugar present in the bloodstream rapidly increases and then decreases. They commonly occur after eating, but they can also be caused by stress, exercise and other factors. Limiting spikes and improving glucose management can help users improve their sleep and mood, manage their weight and be proactive about their future health, according to Abbott.

To help users conceptualize the impact of their spikes, the company created a metric called the “Lingo Count.” It’s an algorithm that assigns a numeric value to each glucose spike, and it’s supposed to represent how significant the impact is. 

Over each day, users have a target Lingo Count that they want to aim to stay below, and it adjusts to your body with time. My Lingo Count target was 60 initially, and now it’s 44. 

It’s a really helpful way to conceptualize the impact that your diet has on your body. For instance, when I ate a vanilla greek yogurt, it added 5 points to my Lingo Count, and when I had a few pieces of candy, it added 14. It’s almost intuitive, but it really helps reinforce those healthy habits in my mind. I haven’t managed to stay below my target every day, but I do have a much better understanding of why that’s the case, and what I can work on. 

I also liked that I could go deeper into my Lingo Count data. Users can look at their Lingo Count over the course of a week, a month or all time. It also shows you what time of day you tend to experience the biggest spikes, which is usually the evening in my case. 

In order to get the most out of Lingo Count, you need to log your meals and exercise in the app. This is mostly straightforward, but the app does glitch from time to time. I often have to tap the entry boxes repeatedly before it will let me type or make a selection, but it always works for me eventually.  

Lingo Count is the crown jewel of the Lingo experience, but there are also a lot of other nice features in the app. For instance, Abbott has a tab full of challenges to help educate users and keep them engaged as they go through their day. 

The challenges are fun, and they usually involve small changes that you can make to help reduce glucose spikes. You can decide how many days each challenge lasts. One challenge I completed encouraged me to close down my kitchen after dinner to avoid late night snacks. This week, I’m challenging myself to drink three liters of water a day. 

Abbott also has lots of articles, videos and recipes available to Lingo users in the discover tab. I recommend going through these, especially if you’re new to glucose management. I think the company does a nice job explaining glucose in plain language. 

I’m not great at eating a balanced breakfast, so I tried some of Abbott’s recipes for omelets and overnight oats. I’ll definitely return to many of these in the future. 

On the whole, I’ve really enjoyed my experience with Lingo, and it’s a tool that I’d definitely recommend to family and friends. It’s easy to use and wear, and Lingo Count has helped me better understand how my dietary choices impact my body over time. 

Feel free to send any tips, suggestions, story ideas and data to Ashley at ashley.capoot@nbcuni.com.

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About 165 million Americans rely on employer-sponsored health insurance, and yet workers may still not get the coverage they want — particularly when it comes to drugs such as Novo Nordisk’s weight-loss drug Wegovy and diabetes drug Ozempic.

About 1 in 3 employees are looking for more resources to combat obesity, according to a recent report by consulting firm Gallagher. Glucagon-like peptide-1 treatments such as Wegovy and Ozempic, which mimic hormones produced in the gut to suppress a person’s appetite, are considered game changers on this front.

These blockbuster weight-loss drugs have skyrocketed in popularity in the U.S. but are still not universally covered — even though “Americans have higher rates of obesity and diabetes and more behavioral health conditions today than ever before,” according to Trilliant Health’s “2024 Trends Shaping the Health Economy” report.

Cost is a key issue.

Although research shows that obesity drugs may have significant health benefits beyond shedding unwanted pounds, organizations representing U.S. insurers have said concerns remain about the high price involved in covering those medications, which are nearly $1,350 per month for a single patient. 

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The price tag for GLP-1 medications, along with the large number of workers who could potentially benefit from using them, are a big driver of higher health-care costs, several studies show. Already, prescription drug costs jumped 8.6% last year, due in part to a surge in the use of GLP-1 drugs, according to a recent report by Mercer.

“Is that significant? Yes,” said Sunit Patel, Mercer’s U.S. chief health actuary.

Patients on these medications need to complete months, if not years, of continuous treatment.

“It becomes a lifelong drug,” said Gary Kushner, chair and president of Kushner & Company, a benefits design and management company. “That’s a pretty expensive commitment.”

expensive weight-loss drugs to some extent. Another 27% are considering adding coverage in the year ahead, according to the survey by Mercer.

Still, “not everyone who wants it can get it,” Patel said.

On the flip side, 3% of employers have recently removed coverage for these drugs and 10% of companies that currently cover them are considering removing them for 2025.  

To improve access to weight-loss drugs, many businesses would have to pay even more — and health-care costs are already reaching a post-pandemic high, with employers and employees set to shell out significantly more for coverage in 2025, according to WTW, a consulting firm formerly known as Willis Towers Watson. U.S. employers project their health-care costs will increase by 7.7% in 2025, compared with 6.9% in 2024 and 6.5% in 2023.

Among employers’ greatest concerns was how to cover increasingly sought-after weight loss drugs, a Kaiser Family Foundation survey also found.

“Employers face the challenge of integrating these potentially important treatments into their already costly benefit plans,” Gary Claxton, KFF’s vice president said in a press statement.

Packages of weight loss drugs Wegovy, Ozempic and Mounjaro.

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FDA-approved for the treatment of Type 2 diabetes.

“Most employers cover Ozempic for diabetes, they don’t necessarily cover it as an anti-obesity medication,” said Seth Friedman, pharmacy and health plans practice leader at Gallagher.

That makes it even trickier for employees to navigate whether they can get access to the drug and if it will be covered by their insurance. “They see that it’s covered but they get rejected,” Friedman said.

A 2023 survey by the International Foundation of Employee Benefit Plans found that 76% of the companies polled provided GLP-1 drug coverage for diabetes, versus only 27% that provided coverage for weight loss — leaving many workers shut out.

“Obviously, there is demand for them, and it’s not for diabetes, it’s for weight loss,” said Kushner.

Capturing the Weight Loss Drug Craze

“Looking ahead to 2025, about half of large employers will cover the drugs for weight loss,” said Beth Umland, Mercer’s research director of health and benefits. However, “even when they do, there are guardrails around who can use it.”

Demand for these treatments is only expected to increase — but the added controls for coverage are also helping to keep costs in check.

Nearly all employers have some sort of “utilization management” restrictions in place, such as a prior authorization requirement, according to Gallagher’s Friedman.

For some companies, that may mean workers must try other weight-loss methods first or meet with a dietitian and enroll in a weight-loss management program. Others may require a threshold for body mass index, or BMI, of at least 30, depending on how the plan is set up, Friedman said.

This information is available during open enrollment, which typically runs through early December. 

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BOULDER, COLO. — Not far from the majestic Rocky Mountains is an ordinary suburban neighborhood, a tree-lined street and a modest light gray home.

It’s not the kind of place you’d imagine an investigation into black market Ozempic would lead. But it did.

A CNBC investigation into counterfeit weight loss drugs revealed an international illegal marketplace where criminals either brazenly alter the drugs or ship the real product from overseas — what’s known as drug diversion and against federal law.

The operations mainly involve phony or illegal versions of Novo Nordisk’s diabetes drug Ozempic and its obesity drug Wegovy as well as Eli Lilly’s Mounjaro and Zepbound. All four drugs are in a class of wildly popular weight loss drugs known as GLP-1s. The skyrocketing demand for the treatments has led to criminal schemes attempting to capitalize on the surge.

CNBC bought a drug marketed as Ozempic from a company called Laver Beauty, which on its website and corporate documents listed its address on that quiet residential street in Boulder. The drug cost $219 for a month’s supply, a fraction of the list price of $968 for a month’s supply of Ozempic in the U.S.

The owners of the home in Boulder say they have no connection to the company — though they’ve received mail and a 1099 IRS tax form addressed to Laver Beauty.

The drug CNBC purchased was shipped via DHL from an office building in Shijiazhuang, China, about a four-hour drive from Beijing. The package that arrived at CNBC headquarters in Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey, was a plain cardboard box with no refrigeration except for two melted ice packs. Ozempic is supposed to be stored refrigerated. The drug packaging, which appeared authentic, featured Chinese writing and the Novo Nordisk logo.

In an email, Novo Nordisk said the drug appeared to be “diverted legitimate product that was produced for, and distributed to, the Chinese market during late ’23 and early ’24. Therefore, it would be unauthorized/unapproved for the US market.”

The company added that it “cannot confirm the sterility, which may present an increased risk of infection for patients who use the counterfeit product.”

Law enforcement sources told CNBC that the Ozempic received from China is part of a larger ongoing federal investigation into Ozempic packages being shipped to the U.S.

Laver Beauty did not respond to CNBC’s request for comment, but a person who identified himself as a company representative told CNBC in a WhatsApp chat, “All our products are genuine. We don’t sell fake ones.” The person acknowledged that the product CNBC purchased was intended for the Chinese market.

The representative also messaged that the Boulder address “is the previous address of our U.S. warehouse.” A day after CNBC inquired about the Boulder address, it was removed from the company’s website.

Counterfeit medication

The Ozempic that CNBC purchased is considered an illegally diverted drug. A separate but related growing problem is the rise of counterfeit drugs — fake products purporting to be the real thing.

In the United Kingdom, authorities last year seized hundreds of counterfeit Ozempic pens — insulin pens that had been relabeled as Ozempic.

“We saw that the demand increased and quite often as it happens in these situations, criminals try and fill a gap where the supply and demand aren’t balanced for a particular product, and we started seeing real counterfeit versions of the Ozempic product on the market,” said Andy Morling, deputy director of criminal enforcement for the U.K.’s Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency.

Andy Morling, deputy director of criminal enforcement for the U.K.’s Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency, holds up a real and fake Ozempic pen.

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Morling spoke to CNBC from a warehouse outside London where the counterfeits are stored. A total of 869 Ozempic counterfeit pens were seized in 2023.

Counterfeit weight loss drugs have serious health risks, according to the pharmaceutical companies and federal officials. In some cases they could be fatal to someone using them.

Eli Lilly, the maker of Mounjaro and Zepbound, said it is actively fighting the counterfeits.

“We have a very elaborate and rigorous system to test medicines before they’re allowed to be used in patients. But unfortunately [counterfeits] don’t go through that system at all,” said Dr. Daniel Skovronsky, Eli Lilly’s chief scientific officer and president of Lilly Research Labs.

Dr. Daniel Skovronsky, Eli Lilly’s chief scientific officer and president of Lilly Research Labs, shows samples of real and counterfeit Mounjaro.

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He showed CNBC a sophisticated fake that was labeled as Mounjaro but that contained a different medication entirely — one for Type 2 diabetes that doesn’t cause weight loss.

“It looks to all the world like Mounjaro, comes in a box that’s labeled as Mounjaro,” he said. “And it has pens that are labeled as Mounjaro. But it’s not Mounjaro at all.”

Counterfeiters are already trying to cash in on a weight loss drug that the company hasn’t even put on the market yet: retatrutide. CNBC found it’s being sold online.

“We’re testing it in Phase 3 clinical trials today. We don’t know yet, but I hope to get those results next year and we’ll find out,” Skovronksy said.

Asked about sites selling what they claim is retatrutide, Skovronksy said, “Yeah, that’s crazy … Even the real retatrutide is not ready for patient use outside of clinical trials.”

Port seizures rising

Finding fake or diverted Ozempic and other obesity drugs is common at the sprawling international mail facility located on the grounds of John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York City. More than 60,000 seizures of counterfeit and illegal goods were made last year at the facility.

Seized Ozempic, Wegovy and other weight loss drugs at JFK International Mail Facility.

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“I am not surprised, unfortunately, any of these new type of drugs that we’re seeing, whether it be weight loss drugs or other drugs,” Sal Ingrassia, the port director overseeing U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) at JFK, told CNBC. “We’ll see them either diverted, counterfeited or illegally shipped through this facility.”

According to CBP, since Jan. 1 the agency has made more than 198 seizures of medication labeled as Ozempic. Nine shipments of medication labeled as Wegovy were also seized, as well as one shipment labeled as Mounjaro.

The CBP seizures data doesn’t specify how much of that medication was real and diverted to the U.S. or counterfeit.

Sal Ingrassia is the port director at JFK for U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

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CNBC showed Ingrassia the Ozempic that it purchased from Laver Beauty, the package lacking the required refrigeration, and he said it was clear the shipment had “broken the legal supply chain.”

“This to me, is something that if we see, we are going to intercept and take action on. This is a dangerous product,” he said.

Ingrassia said he expects the number of interceptions of weight loss products to double this year over last.

And what happens to the seized items? Unless they’re part of an active investigation by the FDA, Ingrassia said, U.S. Customs isn’t allowed to destroy them, because the injection pens are categorized as medical devices. They are then sent back to the foreign supplier.

Illegal websites crackdown

Ingrassia said that for the most part, diverted products are ordered online or via social media.

“These are mostly individuals that are ordering this, going online and looking for a deal. And obviously taking a big risk by doing that. But we’ve also seen these products being ordered by doctors’ offices,” he said.

To go after the sellers of counterfeit or illegally diverted drugs, the pharmaceutical industry has teamed up with BrandShield, a cybersecurity company.

BrandShield CEO Yoav Keren showed CNBC various sites that the company flagged and that ultimately got shut down, including a Facebook account and a TikTok account that impersonated GLP-1 makers and sold versions of the drug.

Spokespeople for Meta, the parent company of Facebook and Instagram, and TikTok said their platforms do not allow the sale of prescription drugs and that the companies take action to remove those listings.

A Meta spokesperson in an email to CNBC said, “This is a challenge that spans platforms, industries, and communities which is why we work with law enforcement, regulators, and private industry to combat this problem. We continue to invest resources and further improve our enforcement on this kind of content.”

Keren said 250 sites identified by BrandShield as related to bogus weight loss products were removed last year, eight times the number in 2022.

“It’s kind of a whack-a-mole, but we’re on them. We’re chasing them, this is our technology, we find them very quickly,” he said.

The Turkey connection

Counterfeit Ozempic has been reported in 15 countries, according to the World Health Organization, which issued a global alert in June warning of the health risks of purchasing fake products.

For the U.S. government, it’s a big problem.

“We are seeing a lot of diverted medicines coming in from Europe and South America,” said Nicole Johnson, national program manager for the Intellectual Property Rights Coordination Center, which fights counterfeiting. “But for counterfeits, a lot of what we’re seeing currently in the United States is just the reuse of old Ozempic pens — so people can actually just take the original packaging and fill it with saline.”

Nicole Johnson is National Program Manager for the Intellectual Property Rights Coordination Center.

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Johnson said the top countries where counterfeits and diverted drugs originate are India, China, the United Kingdom, Mexico and Turkey. In Turkey, she says, government-subsidized pharmaceuticals have fueled the counterfeit drug market.

Istanbul may be known for the beauty of the Bosphorus, surrounded by stunning palaces and mosques. But it’s also one of the epicenters of the lucrative counterfeit drug trade, according to U.S. authorities who track counterfeit drugs.

“What the criminals normally do is they find something to exploit to make more money. So the pharmaceuticals were then bought up, and then sold throughout the world — something that was supposed to help people, and it’s being exploited,” Johnson said.

Last fall, the Turkish National Police conducted raids throughout Istanbul as part of a coordinated international crackdown.

Maziar Mike Doustdar, executive vice president of international operations for Novo Nordisk, agreed that Turkey has become a hot spot for pharmaceutical crime.

Maziar Mike Doustdar is Executive Vice President of Novo Nordisk’s international operations, based in Zurich.

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Counterfeiters have acquired sophisticated packaging equipment that is “on par with the original company equipment,” Doustdar said.

“They source the equipment from pretty much the same place as we or our competitors are sourcing it. So, they make the packaging look very, very, similar to the original product,” he said.

Direnc Bada, an Istanbul-based attorney who represents major pharmaceutical companies in Turkey, pointed to “an increasing amount of online channels promoting these products … and it’s forbidden in Turkey actually to sell these through online channels.”

Direnc Bada is an attorney who represents pharmaceutical companies in Turkey.

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FDA alert, complaints

In the U.S., the FDA announced in an alert in December that it had seized “thousands of units of counterfeit” Ozempic in the “legitimate U.S. supply chain.”

Asked about the status of the investigation into the counterfeit Ozempic, an FDA spokesperson said there were no updates to the original alert.

The risks in purchasing counterfeit drugs can be high. Given the delicate nature of the formulation and the specific shipping requirements for the drugs, consuming illegal versions can be dangerous to a person’s health.

“It’s one thing to counterfeit a luxury bag. It’s a very, very different thing when you counterfeit a medicine,” Doustdar said.

Reports of issues with weight loss drugs containing semaglutide, the active ingredient in Ozempic, or tirzepatide, the active ingredient in Mounjaro, have seen a sharp rise since 2019.

“This is a very serious problem for us as a pharma company, as an industry, because patient safety is our license to operate. And you’re playing with people’s safety,” Doustdar said.

“There is no good counterfeit,” he said.

— CNBC’s Eunice Yoon and Paige Tortorelli contributed to this report.

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A box of Ozempic made by Novo Nordisk is seen at a pharmacy in London, Britain March 8, 2024.

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Novo Nordisk‘s blockbuster diabetes drug Ozempic may decrease the risk of opioid overdoses in certain patients, demonstrating its potential as an alternative treatment for opioid use disorder, according to a new study released Wednesday. 

The active ingredient in Ozempic, semaglutide, was associated with a “significantly lower” opioid overdose risk than other diabetes medications in people diagnosed with both Type 2 diabetes and opioid use disorder, said the paper published in JAMA Network Open. 

The results suggest that Ozempic could offer potential as a tool for addressing the ongoing U.S. opioid epidemic, which was declared a public health emergency in 2017. There are currently three effective medications to prevent overdoses from opioid use disorder, but a new alternative is needed because some patients simply don’t use them, said lead study co-author Dr. Rong Xu, a biomedical informatics professor at Case Western Reserve University. 

In 2022, only about a quarter of patients with opioid use disorder received recommended medications for it, and many discontinued treatment within six months, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The National Center for Drug Abuse Statistics says opioids are a factor in around 72% of overdose deaths in the U.S. 

The study results also add to mounting evidence that a highly popular class of diabetes and obesity treatments called GLP-1s may have several health benefits beyond regulating blood sugar and promoting weight loss. Novo Nordisk, its rival Eli Lilly and independent researchers have been racing to study those drugs’ potential in patients with chronic conditions ranging from kidney disease and sleep apnea to addictive behaviors such as nicotine and alcohol use.

In the study released Wednesday, researchers from Case Western Reserve University and the National Institutes of Health analyzed the electronic records of nearly 33,000 patients who were prescribed semaglutide or other diabetes medications between December 2017 and June 2023. The study was not funded by Novo Nordisk. 

Around 3,000 people were prescribed semaglutide injections, while the remaining patients received treatments that ranged from insulins to older GLP-1s for diabetes. That includes dulaglutide, the active ingredient in Eli Lilly’s drug Trulicity, and liraglutide, which is the active ingredient in Novo Nordisk’s Victoza. 

Researchers monitored how many opioid overdose cases occurred in patients during a one-year period after they stopped treatment with semaglutide or other drugs. For example, there were 42 cases of opioid overdose among a group of patients that received semaglutide, compared with 97 cases among another group that received insulins, according to the study. 

That reflects a 58% lower risk of opioid overdose in patients who took semaglutide, Xu said.  

But Xu noted the study has limitations since it relies on data from electronic health records.

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More research, specifically clinical trials that randomly assign patients to receive semaglutide or other treatments, is needed to confirm how much Ozempic and other GLP-1s can help those with opioid use disorder, according to the study authors. Those randomized studies can also determine whether those treatments are beneficial to the general opioid use disorder population or only certain patients with the condition.

“The extent to which GLP-1 medications could benefit treatment of opioid use disorders and help prevent overdoses is unclear,” Dr. Nora Volkow, lead study co-author and director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse of the National Institutes of Health, said in a statement to CNBC. “The preliminary findings from this study point to the possibility that GLP-1 medications may have value in helping to prevent opioid overdoses.”

Xu added that the researchers plan to study semaglutide in patients with opioid use disorder and obesity. 

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'Stop ripping us off': Senate grills Novo Nordisk CEO on weight loss drug pricing https://thenewshub.in/2024/09/24/stop-ripping-us-off-senate-grills-novo-nordisk-ceo-on-weight-loss-drug-pricing/ https://thenewshub.in/2024/09/24/stop-ripping-us-off-senate-grills-novo-nordisk-ceo-on-weight-loss-drug-pricing/?noamp=mobile#respond Tue, 24 Sep 2024 21:49:12 +0000 https://thenewshub.in/2024/09/24/stop-ripping-us-off-senate-grills-novo-nordisk-ceo-on-weight-loss-drug-pricing/

Novo Nordisk‘s top executive faced a Senate grilling on Tuesday over the high prices of the company’s weight loss drug Wegovy and diabetes treatment Ozempic, as demand for both injections soars in the U.S. 

Novo Nordisk CEO Lars Fruergaard Jørgensen did not explicitly promise lawmakers at a Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee hearing in Washington, D.C., that he would slash prices for the two drugs.

But Jørgensen said he wants to work with them on policy solutions that will address the “structural issues” that drive up prescription drug costs. He also committed to sitting down with pharmacy benefit managers – middlemen who negotiate drug rebates with manufacturers on behalf of insurers – to “collaborate on anything that helps patients get access and affordability.”

That pledge came after Sen. Bernie Sanders, the Vermont independent who chairs the Senate panel, said he received commitments in writing from all of the major PBMs that they would not limit coverage of Wegovy and Ozempic if Novo Nordisk reduced their list prices. The hearing comes roughly five months after Sanders opened an investigation into the Danish drugmaker’s pricing practices. 

“All we are saying, Mr. Jørgensen, is treat the American people the same way that you treat people all over the world,” Sanders said during the hearing Tuesday. “Stop ripping us off.”

He noted that Novo Nordisk has raked in nearly $50 billion in sales from Wegovy and Ozempic, with most of that revenue coming from the U.S. Sanders contends that Novo Nordisk charges Americans substantially higher prices for its blockbuster drugs than it does for patients in other countries. Before insurance, Ozempic costs nearly $969 per month and Wegovy costs almost $1,350 per month in the U.S. 

U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) speaks during Novo Nordisk CEO Lars Jorgensen’s hearing before a Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee on U.S. prices for the weight loss drugs Ozempic and Wegovy, on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., September 24, 2024. 

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Meanwhile, both treatments can cost as little as under $100 for a month’s supply in some European countries, according to a release from the committee. Ozempic costs just $59 in Germany, while Wegovy costs $92 in the U.K.

Sanders also said last week that the CEOs of major generic pharmaceutical companies have told him that they could sell a version of Ozempic for less than $100 a month at a profit. There are currently no generic alternatives to Ozempic available in the U.S. 

Major PBMs, including UnitedHealth Group‘s Optum Rx and CVS‘ Caremark, and some health plans said $100 monthly list prices for Wegovy and Ozempic would help make those drugs more widely available to patients, according to a release from Sanders.

That could undercut Jørgensen’s claim in his written testimony that PBMs are to blame for the high list prices of Novo Nordisk’s drugs and “exercise near-total control over the ability of hundreds of millions of Americans to get the medicines they need at affordable prices.” The company has argued that it needs to be able to pay rebates to those middlemen to get their drugs on formularies, or lists of medications covered by insurance.

Jørgensen noted that the written promises that Sanders received from PBMs are “new information to me,” but said he understands “that perhaps the PBMs have changed their minds.”

Novo Nordisk has argued that it has spent billions to research, develop and expand manufacturing for the treatments and is funneling more money into researching their potential to treat other obesity-related health conditions. That investment has extended and improved the lives of millions of Americans, which helps reduce the health-care costs associated with obesity and diabetes, according to written testimony from Jørgensen.

Novo Nordisk CEO Lars Jorgensen testifies before a Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee hearing on U.S. prices for the weight loss drugs Ozempic and Wegovy, on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., September 24, 2024. 

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During the hearing, Jørgensen said the company has fought to secure public and private insurance coverage for the medications.

He also in part blamed the “complex U.S. healthcare system” for making it difficult for patients to access affordable prescription drugs, noting that “no single company alone can solve such vast and complicated policy challenges.”

Jørgensen promised that Novo Nordisk will “remain engaged and work with this committee on policy solutions to address the structural issues that drive up costs.”

But Jørgensen contended that lowering prices could have consequences, saying it could lead to less insurance coverage.

In his written testimony, Jørgensen said Novo Nordisk’s insulin product Levemir was previously available to 90% of U.S. patients through formularies. But insurers began to drop coverage of the insulin after Novo Nordisk cut its list price, leading to only 36% of patients having access.

That eventually drove the company to discontinue the insulin, Jørgensen said in his written testimony.

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Sanders and other lawmakers, health experts and insurers have warned that the insatiable demand for Novo Nordisk’s drugs and similar weight loss and diabetes treatments from rival Eli Lilly could potentially bankrupt the U.S. health-care system unless prices drop.

Both drugmakers make GLP-1s, which mimic hormones produced in the gut to tamp down a person’s appetite and regulate their blood sugar. Eli Lilly’s weight loss injection Zepbound and diabetes drug Mounjaro similarly cost around $1,000 per month before insurance and other rebates.

In a release, the Senate Health Committee said it would cost the U.S. $411 billion per year if half of all Americans took weight loss drugs from Novo Nordisk and Eli Lilly. That’s $5 billion more than what Americans spent on all prescription drugs in 2022. 

Medicare spent $4.6 billion on Ozempic in 2022 alone, according to health policy research organization KFF. 

Other insurers and employers have implemented strict requirements to control weight loss drug costs, or have dropped coverage of those treatments altogether. Many health plans cover GLP-1s for diabetes, but not for weight loss. The federal Medicare program doesn’t pay for weight loss treatments unless they are approved and prescribed for another health condition. 

The hearing comes as the Biden administration and lawmakers on both sides of the aisle try to rein in health-care costs in the U.S., in part by pressuring the pharmaceutical industry and drug supply chain middlemen. On average, Americans pay two to three times more than patients in other developed nations for prescription drugs, according to a fact sheet from the White House.

Notably, Ozempic will likely be subject to the next round of price negotiations between manufacturers and Medicare — a key provision of President Joe Biden‘s Inflation Reduction Act that aims to lower costs for seniors. Wall Street analysts say Ozempic will likely be eligible for negotiations by the time the next round of drugs is selected in 2025, for price changes that will go into effect in 2027.

Lawmakers asked Novo Nordisk to commit to not suing the federal government if Ozempic and Wegovy are selected for the next round of negotiations.

Jørgensen did not explicitly make that commitment, noting that the company believes the talks are “not a fair negotiation, but actually price-setting” that will have negative consequences for drug innovation.

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Healthy Returns: Weight loss drug Wegovy could face Medicare price negotiations next https://thenewshub.in/2024/09/24/healthy-returns-weight-loss-drug-wegovy-could-face-medicare-price-negotiations-next/ https://thenewshub.in/2024/09/24/healthy-returns-weight-loss-drug-wegovy-could-face-medicare-price-negotiations-next/?noamp=mobile#respond Tue, 24 Sep 2024 18:05:09 +0000 https://thenewshub.in/2024/09/24/healthy-returns-weight-loss-drug-wegovy-could-face-medicare-price-negotiations-next/

Boxes of Ozempic and Wegovy made by Novo Nordisk are seen at a pharmacy in London, Britain March 8, 2024. 

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Good afternoon! Wegovy, the blockbuster weight loss treatment from Novo Nordisk, tops the list of drugs that could soon become part of the second round of price negotiations between manufacturers and Medicare. 

That’s according to a paper published last week in the Journal of Managed Care & Specialty Pharmacy. By February, the government will unveil the next 15 costliest Medicare Part D drugs that will be subject to the talks, for price changes that will go into effect in 2027. 

The Biden administration last month announced new negotiated prices for the first 10 Medicare Part D drugs selected for the talks. Those prices will take effect in 2026. 

Medications containing the same active ingredient and manufactured by the same company will be considered a single drug for the talks, according to guidance from the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services. The researchers said that’s why they expect all of Novo Nordisk’s three branded drugs containing semaglutide – Wegovy, the diabetes injection Ozempic and an older diabetes pill called Rybelsus – to be selected for the talks as a single product.

That may be a big deal for older adults who use those treatments, which each carry price tags of around $1,000 per month before insurance. However, it’s still unclear how much Medicare could negotiate down those costs — and how much patient costs would fall after insurance and rebates. 

The Biden administration, lawmakers and patient advocates have long criticized the Danish drugmaker for the high list prices of its obesity and diabetes drugs. Novo Nordisk’s CEO Lars Fruergaard Jørgensen faced a Senate grilling on Tuesday over those prices. 

Novo Nordisk CEO Lars Jorgensen testifies before a Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee hearing on U.S. prices for the weight loss drugs Ozempic and Wegovy, on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., September 24, 2024. 

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While Jørgensen did not commit to lowering prices of Wegovy and Ozempic, he vowed to “collaborate” with pharmacy benefit managers “on anything that helps patients get access and affordability.” He also pushed back on Medicare price negotiations when asked about the potential selection of Wegovy and Ozempic, calling the talks “price-setting” that will have negative consequences for drug innovation.

Medicare Part D doesn’t cover weight loss treatments unless they are approved and prescribed for another health condition. But Wegovy could make the list for negotiations because it is now approved to reduce the risk of major cardiovascular complications, making it likely that some Part D plans have started covering the treatment, according to the researchers. 

Under CMS guidance, drugs must be on the market for at least seven years without generic competitors before Medicare can select them for price talks. Semaglutide will have been on the market for seven years and one month by February and does not have any generic equivalents.

Other researchers and Wall Street analysts have said they expect Ozempic to be subject to negotiations because of how much Medicare Part D spends on the treatment. 

The program spent more than $5.6 billion on semaglutide drugs in 2022, which only reflects spending on Ozempic and Rybelsus since Wegovy was not covered at the time, the paper said. Researchers also projected that Medicare Part D spent nearly $7.5 billion on Ozempic and Rybelsus in 2023, which is $3 billion higher than spending for the second-highest eligible drug. 

They noted they likely “underestimated” their projected spending figures for semaglutide

The other drugs expected to be subject to price talks include GSK‘s Trelegy Ellipta, a prescription inhaler used to treat asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, and Xtandi, a rheumatoid arthritis medication from Astellas Pharma

Still, researchers said the final list of drugs selected will depend on whether generic versions launch before February. 

We’ll be following the next round of Medicare drug price negotiations closely, so stay tuned for our coverage. 

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antitrust lawsuit against Epic Systems, a software vendor that houses medical records for around 280 million patients in the U.S.

Particle alleges that Epic is using its dominance in the electronic health records space to stifle competition in other markets that use this data. The suit was filed in the Southern District of New York. 

Oracle and Meditech are other prominent companies in the electronic health records segment, and patients often have data stored across multiple vendors. Even so, Epic is a formidable competitor. The company commands the most acute care market share in the U.S., covering more than half all acute care multispecialty beds, according to a report from KLAS Research. Additionally, Epic was the only vendor that saw a net increase in this market share in 2023, the report said.  

Particle’s lawsuit comes after the two companies clashed over data-sharing practices earlier this year. Epic and Particle both belong to an interoperability network called Carequality, which helps facilitate a large-scale exchange of patient information.

Epic filed a formal dispute with Carequality in March, citing concerns that Particle and its participant organizations “might be inaccurately representing the purpose associated with their record retrievals.” To join the Carequality network, organizations must be approved and abide by “Permitted Purposes,” generally having to do with treatment, for the exchange of patient records.

In its 81-page complaint, Particle said Epic’s dispute was “manufactured” and that Epic asserted some Particle customers, not Particle itself, were obtaining records improperly. Particle said Epic used its “outsized influence” over Carequality to get a favorable outcome, and argues that it has suffered damages because of Epic’s conduct.

“Absent repercussions, Epic will be incentivized to run this playbook again the next time a competitor emerges,” Particle said in a release Monday.

Epic said it will “vigorously defend itself against Particle’s meritless claims,” and that it will continue to protect patients’ privacy.

“Particle’s claims are baseless. This lawsuit attempts to divert attention from the real issue: Particle’s unlawful actions on the Carequality health information exchange network violated HIPAA privacy regulations,” an Epic spokesperson told CNBC in a statement Tuesday. “Particle’s complaint mischaracterizes Carequality’s decision, which in fact proposes banning Particle customers that were accessing patient data for impermissible purposes.” 

It will likely be a while before there’s a definitive ruling, as antitrust cases often move slowly. Google, for instance, lost an antitrust case last month that was originally filed in 2020. A federal U.S. judge ruled that the company illegally held a monopoly over text advertising and search.

You can read the full Particle complaint against Epic here.

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FTC sues drug middlemen for allegedly inflating insulin prices https://thenewshub.in/2024/09/21/ftc-sues-drug-middlemen-for-allegedly-inflating-insulin-prices/ https://thenewshub.in/2024/09/21/ftc-sues-drug-middlemen-for-allegedly-inflating-insulin-prices/?noamp=mobile#respond Sat, 21 Sep 2024 13:58:35 +0000 https://thenewshub.in/2024/09/21/ftc-sues-drug-middlemen-for-allegedly-inflating-insulin-prices/

Lina Khan, Chair of the Federal Trade Commission (FTC), testifies before the House Appropriations Subcommittee at the Rayburn House Office Building on May 15, 2024 in Washington, DC. 

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The Federal Trade Commission on Friday sued three large U.S. health companies that negotiate insulin prices, arguing the drug middlemen use practices that boost their profits while “artificially” inflating costs for patients. 

The suit targets the three biggest so-called pharmacy benefit managers, UnitedHealth Group’s Optum Rx, CVS Health’s Caremark and Cigna’s Express Scripts. All are owned by or connected to health insurers and collectively administer about 80% of the nation’s prescriptions, according to the FTC. 

The FTC’s lawsuit also includes each PBM’s affiliated group purchasing organization, which brokers drug purchases for hospitals and other health-care providers. The agency said it could recommend suing drugmakers Eli Lilly, Sanofi and Novo Nordisk in the future as well over their role in driving up list prices for their insulin products.

A UnitedHealth spokesperson said the suit “demonstrates a profound misunderstanding of how drug pricing works, noting that Optum RX has “aggressively and successfully” negotiated with drug manufacturers.

A CVS spokesperson said Caremark is “proud of the work” it has done to make insulin more affordable for Americans, adding that “to suggest anything else, as the FTC did today, is simply wrong.”

And, a spokesperson for Express Scripts said the suit “continues a troubling pattern from the FTC of unsubstantiated and ideologically-driven attacks” on PBMs. It comes three days after Express Scripts sued the FTC, demanding that the agency retract its allegedly “defamatory” July report that claimed that the PBM industry is hiking drug prices.

PBMs sit at the center of the drug supply chain in the U.S. They negotiate rebates with drug manufacturers on behalf of insurers, large employers and federal health plans. They also create lists of medications, or formularies, that are covered by insurance and reimburse pharmacies for prescriptions. The FTC has been investigating PBMs since 2022. 

The agency’s suit argues that the three PBMs have created a “perverse” drug rebate system that prioritizes high rebates from drugmakers, which leads to “artificially inflated insulin list prices.” It also alleges that PBMs favor those high-list-price insulins even when more affordable insulins with lower list prices become available. 

The FTC is filing its complaint through its so-called administrative process, which initiates a proceeding before an administrative judge who would hear the case.

“Millions of Americans with diabetes need insulin to survive, yet for many of these vulnerable patients, their insulin drug costs have skyrocketed over the past decade thanks in part to powerful PBMs and their greed,” Rahul Rao, deputy director of the FTC’s Bureau of Competition, said in a statement. 

“The FTC’s administrative action seeks to put an end to the Big Three PBMs’ exploitative conduct and marks an important step in fixing a broken system—a fix that could ripple beyond the insulin market and restore healthy competition to drive down drug prices for consumers,” Rao continued. 

Roughly 8 million Americans with diabetes rely on insulin to survive, and many have been forced to ration the treatment due to high prices, according to the FTC.

The White House has no comment on the FTC’s suit, but has “made clear that no one should pay higher prices because of corporate greed,” White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said in a statement Saturday.

President Joe Biden‘s signature Inflation Reduction Act has capped insulin prices for Medicare beneficiaries at $35 per month. That policy currently does not extend to patients with private insurance.

The Biden administration and Congress have ramped up pressure on PBMs, seeking to increase transparency into their operations as many Americans struggle to afford prescription drugs. On average, Americans pay two to three times more than patients in other developed nations for prescription drugs, according to a fact sheet from the White House.

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The FTC said it remains “deeply troubled” by the role insulin manufacturers play in higher list prices, arguing that they inflate prices in response to PBMs’ demands for higher rebates. Eli Lilly, Sanofi and Novo Nordisk control roughly 90% of the U.S. insulin market.

For example, Eli Lilly’s Humalog insulin had a list price of $274 in 2017, a more than 1,200% increase from its $21 list price in 1999, according to the FTC.

The FTC said all drugmakers should “be on notice that their participation in the type of conduct challenged here raises serious concerns.”

An Eli Lilly spokesperson said the FTC’s suit concerns “aspects of the U.S. health care system that we have long been advocating to reform.” They added that the company last year became the first to cap out-of-pocket costs for all of its insulins at $35 per month for people with private insurance. Eli Lilly also cut some insulin list prices by up to 70%.

Sanofi last year announced a similar $35 monthly price cap for its most commonly prescribed insulin. Novo Nordisk last year also said it would slash the list prices of some of its popular insulins by up to 75%.

A spokesperson for Sanofi said the company has not seen and will not comment on the FTC’s complaint against PBMs. But the French drugmaker agrees with the FTC’s claim that PBMs have “leveraged their position as powerful industry middlemen and have exploited rebates…to benefit themselves while increasing costs for patients and payers at the same time.”

A Novo Nordisk spokesperson said the company is “committed to ensuring patients have affordable access to their medicines, including insulin.” Novo Nordisk does not control the prices patients pay at the pharmacy in the “complex U.S. healthcare system,” the spokesperson noted, pointing to the company’s insulin savings card programs.

Correction: This story has been updated to correct a quote from the FTC.

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Why Eli Lilly and Palo Alto Networks are both up on news from their competitors https://thenewshub.in/2024/09/20/why-eli-lilly-and-palo-alto-networks-are-both-up-on-news-from-their-competitors/ https://thenewshub.in/2024/09/20/why-eli-lilly-and-palo-alto-networks-are-both-up-on-news-from-their-competitors/?noamp=mobile#respond Fri, 20 Sep 2024 18:14:26 +0000 https://thenewshub.in/2024/09/20/why-eli-lilly-and-palo-alto-networks-are-both-up-on-news-from-their-competitors/

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Novartis not joining the 'frenzy' of weight loss drugs, CEO says https://thenewshub.in/2024/09/18/novartis-not-joining-the-frenzy-of-weight-loss-drugs-ceo-says/ https://thenewshub.in/2024/09/18/novartis-not-joining-the-frenzy-of-weight-loss-drugs-ceo-says/?noamp=mobile#respond Wed, 18 Sep 2024 08:33:20 +0000 https://thenewshub.in/2024/09/18/novartis-not-joining-the-frenzy-of-weight-loss-drugs-ceo-says/

The CEO of Novartis said Wednesday that the Swiss pharmaceutical giant does not plan to enter into the “frenzy” of weight loss drugs, preferring instead to focus on areas where it can build a “unique position.”

Speaking to CNBC, Vas Narasimhan said that the company was researching treatments that deal with the secondary effects of weight loss, but that it does not plan to compete directly with dominant obesity drugmakers Novo Nordisk and Eli Lilly.

“I think just to follow on the frenzy now would not be the right move for Novartis,” he told CNBC’s “Squawk Box Europe.”

“With obesity right now, we have two very entrenched large players, and I think for future entrants you have to find something new, some sort of new angle that either reduces the nausea and the vomiting or gives patients the ability to lose their weight and retain their muscle,” he said, highlighting existing work in such areas within Novartis’ research labs.

Obesity drug competition has been ramping up over recent months, with major players such as Roche and Pfizer entering the market, which is estimated to be worth up to $200 billion within the coming decade.

However, Narasimhan said his company was targeting areas “we know we can win.” Those include treatments for diseases such as Alzheimer’s, Huntington’s and Parkinson’s, as well as various cancer therapies.

In particular, he said he saw a sizeable market opportunity within its growing radioligand therapies (RLTs), a cancer treatment which targets cancerous cells. So far, the company has made two acquisitions and launched two medicines within the space.

“That’s an area where we think we could build a $20 billion-plus business over time and hopefully build a unique position rather than chasing the other markets,” he said.

“These are places where I feel like we have the right to win,” he added.

His comments come after the company received approval Tuesday from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for its Kisqali metastatic breast cancer drug to be used to treat patients with earlier stages of the disease.

Novartis shares were down 0.3% by 9:30 a.m. London time Wednesday, after a brief pop at the session open.

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